moving to Upage

andyw.upage
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andyw.upage posted this

Hello. I am looking at moving to Upage from artisster/theamler. You have NO documentation on your documentation page. You don't have a 30 day trial on a BETA product. The normal is BETA is free so will help you develop the product with the help of users. Then charge when the product is mature and works. With all the problems with Theamler users will want to know if upage does in fact work before giving money. I am sure I am not the first to ask this. I have tried the product and seems to be going the right way on the Windows desktop and as a plugin BUT have found problems with the Joomla plugin. So if you are not offering a BETA development program giving over $100 is sadly not going to happen.

Hello. I am looking at moving to Upage from artisster/theamler. You have NO documentation on your documentation page. You don't have a 30 day trial on a BETA product. The normal is BETA is free so will help you develop the product with the help of users. Then charge when the product is mature and works. With all the problems with Theamler users will want to know if upage does in fact work before giving money. I am sure I am not the first to ask this. I have tried the product and seems to be going the right way on the Windows desktop and as a plugin BUT have found problems with the Joomla plugin. So if you are not offering a BETA development program giving over $100 is sadly not going to happen.
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Support Team
Support Team posted this

Hi,

The free Beta was available for several months.
uPage has the same trial limitations as Themler (fully functional unlimited trial except saving and exporting). So you can try it before purchasing.

I have tried the product and seems to be going the right way on the Windows desktop and as a plugin BUT have found problems with the Joomla plugin.

Could you please describe the problem with Joomla application in more details?

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi, The free Beta was available for several months. uPage has the same trial limitations as Themler (fully functional unlimited trial except saving and exporting). So you can try it before purchasing. > I have tried the product and seems to be going the right way on the Windows desktop and as a plugin BUT have found problems with the Joomla plugin. Could you please describe the problem with Joomla application in more details? Thank you, Olivia
andyw.upage
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andyw.upage posted this

Hello BETA testing works 2 ways. You get testing for free and the testers gets to use the product. This will quickly produce a stable full functioning product for the developers to sell and make money. If you want crowd funding do it in the normal way and give something back to the investors. BUT wanting subscription payments on a BETA product is not the way to go. I see you have recently and finally resolved a MAJOR bug in theamler regarding H1 and SCO this should be a free update as its a BUG fix NOT a enhancement. This should of been resolved while in BETA before candidate release. Regarding the bug mentioned above, give something back to encourage further user engagement.
If you want a payment then start the subscription after the product is deemed to be a functional product or have a 50% reduction in the normal cost and free for users with a current subscription to theamlar. I have seen this mentioned on the theamler forum in the past 4 weeks.

Lets make this product GREAT. Cos I want to make great websites.

Hello BETA testing works 2 ways. You get testing for free and the testers gets to use the product. This will quickly produce a stable full functioning product for the developers to sell and make money. If you want crowd funding do it in the normal way and give something back to the investors. BUT wanting subscription payments on a BETA product is not the way to go. I see you have recently and finally resolved a MAJOR bug in theamler regarding H1 and SCO this should be a free update as its a BUG fix NOT a enhancement. This should of been resolved while in BETA before candidate release. Regarding the bug mentioned above, give something back to encourage further user engagement. If you want a payment then start the subscription after the product is deemed to be a functional product or have a 50% reduction in the normal cost and free for users with a current subscription to theamlar. I have seen this mentioned on the theamler forum in the past 4 weeks. Lets make this product GREAT. Cos I want to make great websites.
andyw.upage
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andyw.upage posted this

the problem with the plugin is when you want to look at page properties it refreshes the page and all is lost.

running joomla 3.8.1 on xampp php 7.19

Andy

the problem with the plugin is when you want to look at page properties it refreshes the page and all is lost. running joomla 3.8.1 on xampp php 7.19 Andy
andyw.upage
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andyw.upage posted this

and the php.ini is set for prodution use

and the php.ini is set for prodution use
andyw.upage
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andyw.upage posted this

Hi more on the plugin. when on preview the responsive layout is not correct. images are not resized correctly, images over text, text over images, text bleeding out of the frame.

Is this normal on preview. Does this do it on the webpage ? I can not tel without a working trial.

Don't get me wrong the product looks great and can see the potential but is it ready for general release and ask money for it.

I do want to buy and use.

Hi more on the plugin. when on preview the responsive layout is not correct. images are not resized correctly, images over text, text over images, text bleeding out of the frame. Is this normal on preview. Does this do it on the webpage ? I can not tel without a working trial. Don't get me wrong the product looks great and can see the potential but is it ready for general release and ask money for it. I do want to buy and use.
Support Team
Support Team posted this

Hi,

The free Beta was available for several months. Then we enabled subscriptions system. Just like we did with Themler in the past. Themler was at beta stage when we started to sell it too.

The problem with h2 heading in Themler was not a bug. The Post Header was initially created as h2 because of some reasons. We changed the default behavior of the control and considered it as improvement. In any case, all Themler updates (with bug fixes or improvements) require active subscription. This is the way system works.

We offer 40% discount for Themler users with active subscription. This is good discount.

The preview look should be the same as the live look.
Could you please attach a few screenshots that demonstrate the layout problem in responsive mode (original desktop layout and phone mode with problem)?

I've reported the issue with Page Properties dialog to our developers. We'll fix it in the near future.

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi, The free Beta was available for several months. Then we enabled subscriptions system. Just like we did with Themler in the past. Themler was at beta stage when we started to sell it too. The problem with h2 heading in Themler was not a bug. The Post Header was initially created as h2 because of some reasons. We changed the default behavior of the control and considered it as improvement. In any case, all Themler updates (with bug fixes or improvements) require active subscription. This is the way system works. We offer 40% discount for Themler users with active subscription. This is good discount. The preview look should be the same as the live look. Could you please attach a few screenshots that demonstrate the layout problem in responsive mode (original desktop layout and phone mode with problem)? I've reported the issue with Page Properties dialog to our developers. We'll fix it in the near future. Thank you, Olivia
andyw.upage
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andyw.upage posted this

Hi images of the problems the preview output does not support responsive output to a mobile screen text and images.
If the preview is the sane a the final webpage there are problems and does not give a good site visitor experience.

Also I develop in Firefox / developer and at present Upage only works in chrome when you are using the plugin, its a pain to keep swapping browsers.

Are you going to support Firefox ?

Andy

Hi images of the problems the preview output does not support responsive output to a mobile screen text and images. If the preview is the sane a the final webpage there are problems and does not give a good site visitor experience. Also I develop in Firefox / developer and at present Upage only works in chrome when you are using the plugin, its a pain to keep swapping browsers. Are you going to support Firefox ? Andy
andyw.upage
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andyw.upage posted this

as you can see from a contact page images a lot more work is needed before this product is ready for release.

andy

as you can see from a contact page images a lot more work is needed before this product is ready for release. andy
Support Team
Support Team posted this

HI,

Our developers are still working in improving responsive feature. They plan to implement similar responsive settings as in Themler - the ability to make changes to the layout for different responsive modes. The improved functionality will solve both reported issuers. Unfortunately I cannot say when the updates updated feature will be available but it will be soon.

Yes, unfortunately FF is not supported by uPage at this time. The main problem of FireFox is slow execution of java scripts. But FF is in our future plans.

Thank you,
Olivia

HI, Our developers are still working in improving responsive feature. They plan to implement similar responsive settings as in Themler - the ability to make changes to the layout for different responsive modes. The improved functionality will solve both reported issuers. Unfortunately I cannot say when the updates updated feature will be available but it will be soon. Yes, unfortunately FF is not supported by uPage at this time. The main problem of FireFox is slow execution of java scripts. But FF is in our future plans. Thank you, Olivia
andyw.upage
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andyw.upage posted this

Unfortunately websites need to be able to be viewed on a mobile device and Google checks for this as well for there rankings. When you have sorted out the above issues I will look again on possibly using Upage as paid subscription product. But at its present stage of development it is unusable and you wanting to be paid for the use of a ALPHA stage product will not happen. Have a look at onone software and the beta development program they have. They are now on beta2 on a free to use program and they are getting a lot of user testing and feedback. Please keep me informed when the product is ready to use. like I said previously it looks very promising and with a bit more work and testing you will have a amazing product like you had with Artisteer, which I still use today.

Andy

Unfortunately websites need to be able to be viewed on a mobile device and Google checks for this as well for there rankings. When you have sorted out the above issues I will look again on possibly using Upage as paid subscription product. But at its present stage of development it is unusable and you wanting to be paid for the use of a ALPHA stage product will not happen. Have a look at onone software and the beta development program they have. They are now on beta2 on a free to use program and they are getting a lot of user testing and feedback. Please keep me informed when the product is ready to use. like I said previously it looks very promising and with a bit more work and testing you will have a amazing product like you had with Artisteer, which I still use today. Andy
Support Team
Support Team posted this

Hi,

We'll keep our customers informed about the progress via our forum as we do with Themler.
Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi, We'll keep our customers informed about the progress via our forum as we do with Themler. Please let us know if you have any further questions. Thank you, Olivia
andyw.upage
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andyw.upage posted this

Hi Olivia

Forums gets lost in the traffic like Face Book and you have to keep looking at it.
You could do with a mailing list and do mail shots its great marketing tool.

Your quite welcome to add me to one if you decide to do one.

Andy

Hi Olivia Forums gets lost in the traffic like Face Book and you have to keep looking at it. You could do with a mailing list and do mail shots its great marketing tool. Your quite welcome to add me to one if you decide to do one. Andy
Support Team
Support Team posted this

Hi,

We'll discuss sending news about uPage updates by email in the future.
Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi, We'll discuss sending news about uPage updates by email in the future. Please let us know if you have any further questions. Thank you, Olivia
andyw.upage
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andyw.upage posted this 11 September 2017

Hi Olivia

Any news on the next beta release. Ive been looking at the downloads but still the same version number.
Ive been looking at several page builders and need to make a commitment to one (money).

Andy

Hi Olivia Any news on the next beta release. Ive been looking at the downloads but still the same version number. Ive been looking at several page builders and need to make a commitment to one (money). Andy
Support Team
Support Team posted this 11 September 2017

Hi,

Unfortunately I cannot provide you with the date yet. We're working on the next update. It is coming soon.

Thank you,
Olivia

Hi, Unfortunately I cannot provide you with the date yet. We're working on the next update. It is coming soon. Thank you, Olivia
andyw.upage
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andyw.upage posted this 11 September 2017

Hi Olivia

Thanks for the update.

Have you implemented email updates mail list yet.

Andy

Hi Olivia Thanks for the update. Have you implemented email updates mail list yet. Andy
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